Dom Training Christian Wilde
Live Shoot
Jan 14, 2010 - Van Darkholme, Patrick Rouge and Christian Wilde
Christian Wilde is handsome as hell. He's a well spoken quiet stud. I see something dark and wicked about him and decide to give him dom training. I feel doms need to know the corporal they are dishing out, so I tie up Christian and give a nice hard flogging. Patrick Rouge is waiting patiently in the metal cage with a spike bottom. I show Christian my flogging technique and how to handle a sub. The members are chiming in through chat on what to do to Patrick. With the members suggestions, Patrick endures the flogger, the cane, foot worshiping, butterfly nipple clamps, the spider gag, metal and rope bondage, a bondage fuck and finally two cum loads to his face. Sincerely, Van Darkholme
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| Date | Comments | Vote | Name |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jun 4, 2011 | Handsome Patrick Rouge has a nice sized cock for a sub and enjoys taking these two manly studs up his ass. Yhey had me hard. Nice to see him clean his two doms after they came in his mouth. | Great! | hornyblx |
| Jun 4, 2011 | Handsome Patrick Rouge has a nice sized cock for a sub and enjoys taking these two manly studs up his ass. Yhey had me hard. Nice to see him clean his two doms after they came in his mouth. | Great! | hornyblx |
| Jun 4, 2011 | Handsome Patrick Rouge has a nice sized cock for a sub and enjoys taking these two manly studs up his ass. Yhey had me hard. Nice to see him clean his two doms after they came in his mouth. | Great! | hornyblx |
| Mar 16, 2011 | Van, you coddle Patrick way too much! And BTW, did you notice that when Christian was getting his cock sucked through the spider gag, Patrick would push his head down to avoid getting the full length in his mouth. So much for the zero gag reflex you boasted about! He certainly made you look like a fool! Take a look at the video...there's at least 2 - 3 inches that could have fit had he not bent his head forward! Fucking spoiled little diva! | Great! | ResearcherbyDay |
| Dec 29, 2010 | more of christian tied up and tortured please!!!!!! That's really something that could attract ppl! | Fair | kkirk |
| Nov 1, 2010 | I LOVE PATRICK ROUGE HE'S SO GOOD I HOPE I CAN BE WITH HIM | Great! | latiif |
| Oct 29, 2010 | ACTORS | Good | ymir2105 |
| Oct 28, 2010 | As an aspiring Dom myself this archived Live Shoot was priceless. I feel I understand more about how to keep the boy's attention and at the same time make sure he's ok. Thank you Van for this rare glimpse into a training relationship which is usually closed and hidden from public view. | Great! | brentzooka |
| Jul 20, 2010 | I like Christian Wilde ... (Patrick is nice too) | Great! | arnmon |
| Jul 10, 2010 | good job van.... I'm a newbie, and learning my dom techniques for women and men. Ah, the world of the bisexual. | Great! | blueslady |
| May 19, 2010 | Patrick was excellent!! I liked this one a lot. Learned a few things as well, which is always good. | Great! | cheftomomaha |
| May 16, 2010 | im new to the whole gayB&D life style thanks Van for the way you teach on this art im going to learn alot from your sites to teach my doms and have a fun with there subs. thanks Van | Great! | mat1969 |
| Apr 26, 2010 | I agree with masterob's observation that Christian should explore the opportunity to sub (would be hot along with Patrick!). Christian needs direction to bring out some personality that with his beautiful body, could be awesome. Wonder how Patrick would work as the instructor? | Great! | haltsbn |
| Apr 24, 2010 | Not always a fan of live shoots, this did however incorporate some interesting elements such as the instructional component and it was fun and humourous at times, which can be quite refreshing but nothing more than that. | Fair | Riffraff8 |
| Apr 11, 2010 | Loved the last scene with the spider gag. Van, when are you going to tell us where to get them? I keep asking, but get no answer. | Good | carlosgomez |
| Mar 22, 2010 | Patrick is realy good, but Christian has to learn a lot to be a good dom | Good | jonco |
| Mar 2, 2010 | The "Dom in training" concept was great and it was interesting to watch Van's technique and listen to his excellent advice. Alas, Christian Wilde was pretty clueless and lacking any initiative or desire to be a Dom. I couldn't help thinking that deep down he is a sub rather than a Dom and no amount of training will overcome that nor should it. Patrick made the shoot. He looks good and is a superb sub. While I appreciate it was a live shoot, there was a lot of "what shall we do next" giving the impression of a lack of forethought into how it would pan out. That made it overlong and it became a bit tedious towards the end. A pity because, as I said, the concept was great. | Good | masterob |
| Feb 14, 2010 | Patrick is a superb bottom. Didn't feel he was well served by his tops in such a talky scene. | Fair | sfmale |
| Feb 2, 2010 | Christians cock got really hard when his toes were being sucked. both guys have hot feet. A sub should always worship the doms feet, both really seemed to enjoy and wanted to please the guests. thanks love the site | Great! | nukee |
| Jan 28, 2010 | The slave could have taken more pain. He was far from his limits | Great! | Franz1999 |
| Jan 27, 2010 | FUN! | Great! | coffeegood |
| Jan 27, 2010 | This area is for your comments about this particular update. If you want a discussion or have questions about certain things, please post it in the BG FORUM. That is the best form of communication rather than have your question or discussion limited for viewing only in this update. Thank you all, Van | Great! | Van_Darkholme |
| Jan 25, 2010 | My problem is with the gags you use.Most are symbolic and this turns me off rather than on.I can understand you using the dental gag so much because of the inability of the bottom to avoid sucking cock and this turns a lot of guys on but be honest, you do use it WAY TOO MUCH. I'm surprised that other customers have not commented on this(use of ineffective gags)because from looking at comments on other sites there are certainly a lot of guys out there that do want really effective gags. Mouth stuffed with sock or rag and tape wrapped around the head fully covering chin to nose. Even just tape wrapped right around the head and fully covering the bottom of the face is way more effective than the gags you use. As I say, I'm amazed that other customers have not said something about this.From your trailers I felt this would be a problem for me but I subscribed for a mate who will probably not be as worried about the gag thing as me. Unless I get better gags I wont be back. No offence but it just wont give me what I am looking for. | Fair | gerryt1 |
| Jan 24, 2010 | Agree with pennagwm. Very good scene though, in a general sense. Van, you obviously put a lot of your energy into this, and it shows in high quality results, but at the same time it appears that you don't like criticism that is negative. If you have a forum like this for opinion sharing, there is going to be some pejorative commentary; when you hand back what sound like annoyed retorts it dilutes your power. Just my thoughts; it's obviously your website... | Good | garyrn |
| Jan 21, 2010 | Good job, I don't mind watching a dom being trained, but I think Christian should have tasted the cain. A dom should have an intimate knowledge of what he is dishing out. | Good | outlaw72 |
| Jan 21, 2010 | Tkid786, seems like you are not happy with the site lately. I am happy to refund your money and cancel your membership. Sincerely, Van | Great! | Van_Darkholme |
| Jan 19, 2010 | Really hot! These guys did a fantastic job!!! | Great! | camden547 |
| Jan 18, 2010 | Hot scene, but would love some fantasy element like kidnapping, burglary, etc. that you used to do. No deep story line, but just a premise as to how the situation developed. Love the creepy janitor, abusive police, mental institution, stuff like that too. | Good | pennagwm |
| Jan 17, 2010 | Before you start screaming foul with your downloads, please contact Customer Support for all your technical issues. Thank you, Van | Great! | Van_Darkholme |
| Jan 16, 2010 | Really enjoyed the foot worship. Great on all counts. Christian is extremely handsome and has a severity about him. I'm sure it will come out even more in future shoots. Van, as always, gorgeous and commanding. Patrick, you played your part perfectly. | Great! | kenbeau |
| Jan 15, 2010 | Patrick you are one hot sub. I truly enjoy the fact that you don't "act". Everything you do is real and true to your role. As for the shoot. I still feel the members should not have to pay for doms in training!! The site should train offline and we should see the polished results. | Fair | tkid786 |
| Jan 15, 2010 | Patrick was superb and suffered brilliantly giving his mind and body to be used and played with. Christian has Dom potential definately practice practice practice! Loved the live shoot and the training given by Van was brilliant. Patrick i wish you were mine to play with! | Great! | Logan2606 |
| Jan 15, 2010 | I didn't liked that video so much, but this is only my personal taste. - How ever Patrick has done a great job! It was also quite interesting to listening to Van's guidelines and instructions. It shows how professional the work at kink.com is done. As said, it wasn't my kind of stuff, I like it more rough. But there are many other great videos here on this site :-) PS: Sorry for my bad English... | Fair | bvg123 |
| Jan 15, 2010 | Super job! Patrick, as always, with a beautiful body is such a treat to watch (thanks, Patrick - nice job!). Christian is one tall guy. He shows tremendous potential (super job, Guy!) And as always, the Darkholme touch makes it all work. Terrific job of guiding and directing Christian - and Patrick is so reponsive. Have I said enough to communicate that this was awesome! Thanks again to all. | Great! | haltsbn |
| Jan 15, 2010 | Please call me Van or refer to me as Van. If you don't see your comment, repost it with the correction. What I noticed on here is that it takes one person to bring something obscure up and you can start hearing the rest of sheeps baa baas. Sincerely, Van Darkholme | Great! | Van_Darkholme |
| Jan 15, 2010 | It's always great to see a hardcore Dom in action, training a slaveboy. Thank You Sir........more slave training. | Great! | lthrsmboi |
| Jan 15, 2010 | It's always great to see a hardcore Dom in action, training slaveboy. Thank You Sir. | Great! | lthrsmboi |
| Jan 14, 2010 | patrick hottttt! but having a hard time with AVG..........all the viral threats | Great! | 1234-12340 |
| Jan 14, 2010 | Not your finest hour. Needs more rough energy that "sweet" guys like these just can't seem to give. It's not just what is done, but who does it that counts. | Fair | DJM575b |
| Jan 14, 2010 | i very very love to see worship the feet GOOD!GOOD!please prepare more this movie | Great! | mc12341069 |
| Jan 14, 2010 | Pretty hot, I always love Patrick, woof! | Great! | rcbondo |
| Jan 14, 2010 | I really enjoyed the live show. What we asked to see was given, that was the best part, felt like i was there. Loved seeing the slave worship the Doms feet, what a great way to humiliate the slave by shoving toes into his mouth. Great Show!!! | Great! | nukee |
| Jan 14, 2010 | did not hold my interest at all i found it to be quite boring the sub new how to take the punishment good but the dom had.. no evilness to him and when flogging he could even swing his arm even more than he did watch for your self and you will see what i mean. | Poor | josephstreis |
| Jan 14, 2010 | Great review lucmilne - I will now have to view the scene - informed by your wisdom - and enjoy it all the more. | Good | BadLuke |
| Jan 14, 2010 | I think Christian Wilde is a definite hottie, but I'd really like to see him in a scene with a story line, rather than in training scenes. | Good | rvrude2001 |
| Jan 14, 2010 | A Master Class in the use and abuse of a boy, unique in its depiction of the training both of a slave and of a young master. Van Darkholme's running commentary and clear instructions provide a rare look into the often unspoken communication between dom and submissive. He makes it clear that the master must monitor the physical and mental condition of the boy at all times, not because he is sympathetic with the boy's stress, but because the slave is a tool for the master's pleasure, and tools must be taken care of. The more care he takes with the slave, the longer and the deeper the pleasure will be. Darkholme also imparts to the intern dom the best advice any young master can have: "be yourself". Don't try to posture in a macho way if that isn't your natural style: talk to the boy: tell him what you like: instruct him in ways he can please you--out of that will come the master's own understanding of what sort of Dominator he really is. Christian Wilde does not yet have a fully formed image as a master, but he is getting there and shows promise of being a coolly ruthless exploiter of all his boy's abilities. Darkholme superbly conveys the constantly shifting focus of a prime Master between attention to the boy's needs and limits and the absolute control and manipulation of his body for the master's own satisfaction. He is especially good on the need to invade the slave's space, demonstrating to the boy that he has nothing to call his own: it all belongs to his owner: this is done by handling every part of the slave's physique as if it were an object belonging to him alone. Darkholme's continuous description of what he's going to do next and of what is expected from the slave helps the viewer partipate in the scene at a much deeper level than usual: the scenario of teaching a new dom makes all this commentary necessary and believable: he is especially good about "timing"--letting the slave, and his dom student, know that tasks must be done slowly and carefully: making the slave count his cane snaps with a cock in his mouth is inspired. Slaves must learn to articulate clearly when their mouths are full, Licking spit off the slave's face and making sure that he milks the last cum from the two cocks extends the scene past the usual "I"ve cum, now it's over" storyline. Identifying the slave's ability to deep throat and pressing his face down on the invading cock encourages the student dom to move past his natural reticence to throat fuck a boy. Patrick Rouge offers ripe and willing flesh for the masters to experiment on. Throughout the scene the presence of two doms makes it easier to teach the slave that he isn't working hard enough at his task, because one master can use the whip, or the zapper to goad the boy to perform more fully. An alternate scenario, in which the Master uses his experienced boy--his "training cock"-- to break in a new boy, is also good and has been used to some extent in previous scenes. This is required viewing for anyone who wants to give and take pleasure in a domination/submission experience. (And for anyone who wants to film that experience!) Masterful in every way. | Great! | lucmilne |
| Jan 14, 2010 | nice Guys but why no leather jacket and leather gloves??? always the same doing | Good | bomber37 |


